Saturday, July 4, 2020
Ellen Chisa On Her Leave Of Absence From HBS
This interview is the latest in an Accepted.com blog series featuringà interviews with MBA students, offering readers a behind-the-scenes look atà top MBA programs. And now for a chat withà Ellen Chisa, a student at Harvard Business School. Accepted: Wed like to get to know you! Where are you from? Where and what did you study as an undergrad?à Ellen Chisa: I originally grew up in Rochester Hills, Michigan ââ¬â where I went to an International Baccalaureate high school and spent a ton of time doing FIRST Robotics. That prompted me to go to tiny (then-unaccredited) Franklin W. Olin College of Engineering in Needham, MA, to study Electrical Computer Engineering. Accepted: Can you share three fun facts about yourself? Ellen Chisa: 1. à Iââ¬â¢m really great at the Twilight Zone Pinball machine. 2. à Early in our relationship, my fiancà © asked me what the best sandwich I ever had was. Iââ¬â¢ve been thinking about it for years, and I still canââ¬â¢t come up with an answer. I love sandwiches. 3. à I havenââ¬â¢t dressed up for Halloween since high school, but Iââ¬â¢m going to do it this year. Accepted: Where are you currently in business school? What year?à Ellen Chisa: Iââ¬â¢m at Harvard Business School. I completed my first year (RC) in the Spring, but Iââ¬â¢m taking a leave between that and the second year (EC). Accepted: Why did you decide to go on leave? What are you doing during this break from school?à Ellen Chisa: I donââ¬â¢t believe that education has to be linear ââ¬â itââ¬â¢s about what youââ¬â¢re learning and how you use it. I started the internship at this company, and during my time we switched from doing investments and internal projects to all focusing on a new (stealth) travel company. I was the first person working on the project, and I wanted to stay to see it out. Right now Iââ¬â¢m officially the Product Manager, but weââ¬â¢re so early that I wear a lot of different hats. Itââ¬â¢s been fun to apply some of the things I learned at HBS! Accepted: Do you think youll return to HBS to complete your degree? Ellen Chisa: I do think Iââ¬â¢ll go back eventually. Itââ¬â¢s not that Iââ¬â¢m worried about having the piece of paper ââ¬â Iââ¬â¢ve just heard great things about the second year courses. Iââ¬â¢ve been relatively open about wanting to found my own company at some point, so when I get to that place, Iââ¬â¢d love to be at HBS and around all of those resources. Accepted: Can you offer some advice to others who may be considering taking a leave of absence from a top MBA program? Or leaving a program altogether with no plans on returning? What are some things they should consider?à Ellen Chisa: Absolutely! I try to evaluate things in terms of opportunity cost. If you were looking at the same things now ââ¬â whatever youââ¬â¢re considering leaving for, and starting your MBA, which would you pick? If youââ¬â¢d do the new thing, thatââ¬â¢s a good sign you should leave. Itââ¬â¢s hard to get the most of an experience when youââ¬â¢re feeling resentful or wish you were doing something else. You should also consider all the practical aspects: will your program allow you to return when youââ¬â¢re ready? How will leaving affect your loans/loan payments/other finances? Will your new opportunity give you health care? If youââ¬â¢re seriously considering it, I wroteà a longer guide. Accepted: What was your favorite thing about HBS? Least favorite thing?à Ellen Chisa: Everyone says the people, and the people are really diverse and interesting. I donââ¬â¢t want to harp on that again. I found the curriculum extremely rewarding. I came from an Engineering/Design/Art background, and it always seemed like finance was just some made up thing. Being able to see how the underpinnings work and do the math to value a company was fascinating for me. A professor told me that Discounted Cash Flow Models donââ¬â¢t click until the 12th time you see them, but the moment when they click is well worth the wait. Itââ¬â¢s like solving a puzzle. My least favorite thing was the rate at which things happened. Since youââ¬â¢re around 900 interesting people, everyone spends a little bit of time trying to get to know everyone. Iââ¬â¢d rather sit down for long conversations and know a couple people really well. Similarly, you never get to discuss a case more than once. I just like to learn by going deeper into fewer topics.à HBS seems to be the land of FOMO (fear of missing out) and Iââ¬â¢ve always been more JOMO (joy of missing out). Accepted: Looking back at the application process, what would you say was your greatest challenge? How would you advise other applicants who may be experiencing similar challenges?à Ellen Chisa: The application wasnââ¬â¢t too bad because it felt very noncommittal (I was a 2+2 admit). The problem was when it came to decide if I wanted to go or not. I easily had over 100 conversations to try to decide. If youââ¬â¢re on the fence, my recommendation is to go. Worst case scenario youââ¬â¢re there for nine months (Aug. May) and itââ¬â¢s expensive, but you learn a ton of stuff. If it isnââ¬â¢t the right fit, you can leave. I was really worried about what taking two years ââ¬Å"out of my careerâ⬠would be like, but Iââ¬â¢m glad I did it. If you donââ¬â¢t go, you might always regret not having tried it out, and youââ¬â¢ll never know what it would have been like. Accepted: Where do you see yourself inà five years from now? à Ellen Chisa: I have no idea. I actually recently found a five year plan from when I was graduating college. It said I should do two years at large company, two years at startup, one year at HBS ââ¬â that is what I did, but I hadnââ¬â¢t referred to (or even remembered) the plan. HBS gives you up to five years of leave ââ¬â so in five years Iââ¬â¢ll either have finished, be finishing, or have decided not to finish HBS. I hope the thing Iââ¬â¢m working on now is a successful product and that Iââ¬â¢ll have a good idea of what I want to build next. You can follow Ellenââ¬â¢s story by checking out her blog at blog.ellenchisa.com or ellenchisa.com or by following her on Twitter at @ellenchisa. Thank you Ellen for sharing your story with us ââ¬â we wish you loads of luck! For one-on-one guidance on your b-school application, please see ourà MBA Application Packages. For specific advice on how to create the best application for Harvard Business School see: ; Related Resources: â⬠¢Ã Why Do YOU Need an MBA?à [Free Guide] â⬠¢Ã Harvard Business School 2016 MBA Essay Tips Deadlines â⬠¢ Get Accepted to Harvard Business Schoolà [on-demand webinar]
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